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	<title>Comments on: Stop signs suck&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Encouragement, Education &#38; Advocacy for Bicycling in the Real World</description>
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		<title>By: Mighk Wilson</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-10715</link>
		<dc:creator>Mighk Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roundabouts cost more to build initially, but save money in the long term.  No signals to power or maintain.  Less pavement to maintain.  

They reduce delay better than signals do, so they save time and money for road users, too.  

And since they&#039;re so much safer, they save us all the emergency and medical costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roundabouts cost more to build initially, but save money in the long term.  No signals to power or maintain.  Less pavement to maintain.  </p>
<p>They reduce delay better than signals do, so they save time and money for road users, too.  </p>
<p>And since they&#8217;re so much safer, they save us all the emergency and medical costs.</p>
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		<title>By: lucas</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-10713</link>
		<dc:creator>lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 03:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes but the traffic circles cost more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes but the traffic circles cost more.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnB</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6807</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t watch the video, but my only concern would be that many people don&#039;t remember what the rule is about who has the right of way when people arrive at the same time. I know I had completely forgotten that one until I re-learned it as a result of bicycling discussions like this one. (And even now, I have trouble remembering it. It&#039;s the person on your right, correct?) Of course that&#039;s a problem with stop signs too, but at least stops signs are telling people to stop, which if followed provides a bit more reaction time. But maybe it&#039;s not significant enough to matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t watch the video, but my only concern would be that many people don&#8217;t remember what the rule is about who has the right of way when people arrive at the same time. I know I had completely forgotten that one until I re-learned it as a result of bicycling discussions like this one. (And even now, I have trouble remembering it. It&#8217;s the person on your right, correct?) Of course that&#8217;s a problem with stop signs too, but at least stops signs are telling people to stop, which if followed provides a bit more reaction time. But maybe it&#8217;s not significant enough to matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Doohickie</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6802</link>
		<dc:creator>Doohickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Removing Stop signs would simply give people unfamiliar with the area the idea that they have the right of way.  I think it would be disastrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Removing Stop signs would simply give people unfamiliar with the area the idea that they have the right of way.  I think it would be disastrous.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddBS</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6783</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first one you linked.  I had no idea it was that long ago... I only looked back to mid February.  Man... I&#039;m getting old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first one you linked.  I had no idea it was that long ago&#8230; I only looked back to mid February.  Man&#8230; I&#8217;m getting old.</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6781</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that post today and have been stewing on it.

Which Chipseal post are you looking for?

http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/01/26/the-enforcement-of-imaginary-laws/
has links to the original posts on his blog.

Steve has a summary of the trial, here
http://dfwptp.blogspot.com/2009/07/people-verus-bates.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that post today and have been stewing on it.</p>
<p>Which Chipseal post are you looking for?</p>
<p><a href="http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/01/26/the-enforcement-of-imaginary-laws/" rel="nofollow">http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/01/26/the-enforcement-of-imaginary-laws/</a><br />
has links to the original posts on his blog.</p>
<p>Steve has a summary of the trial, here<br />
<a href="http://dfwptp.blogspot.com/2009/07/people-verus-bates.html" rel="nofollow">http://dfwptp.blogspot.com/2009/07/people-verus-bates.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ToddBS</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6780</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is off-topic for this post, but I can&#039;t locate the original post on ChipSeal&#039;s case.  This happened in Tampa recently.  I hope it is not an indication of things to come.

http://alansnel.blogspot.com/2010/03/cited-bicyclist-loses-impeding-traffic.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is off-topic for this post, but I can&#8217;t locate the original post on ChipSeal&#8217;s case.  This happened in Tampa recently.  I hope it is not an indication of things to come.</p>
<p><a href="http://alansnel.blogspot.com/2010/03/cited-bicyclist-loses-impeding-traffic.html" rel="nofollow">http://alansnel.blogspot.com/2010/03/cited-bicyclist-loses-impeding-traffic.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: acline</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6776</link>
		<dc:creator>acline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better idea might be to just get rid of stop signs and replace them with nothing in certain circumstances, i.e. make people figure it out. Combined with lower speed limits, we might create a situation in which a new culture might emerge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better idea might be to just get rid of stop signs and replace them with nothing in certain circumstances, i.e. make people figure it out. Combined with lower speed limits, we might create a situation in which a new culture might emerge.</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6772</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos, that&#039;s very exciting news! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos, that&#8217;s very exciting news! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura M</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2010/03/23/stop-signs-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-6771</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohhhh, a TED event here in Orlando! thanks for the head&#039;s up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhhh, a TED event here in Orlando! thanks for the head&#8217;s up.</p>
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