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	<title>Comments on: Baskets vs. Panniers</title>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/12/29/baskets-vs-panniers/comment-page-1/#comment-5542</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie has it right. Weight on the front is fine if it is on the frame and not the hub. Worksman makes a cycle truck that does that:
http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/lowgravity.jpg

Another way to do things is the way I did it using the Alex Wilson design:
http://www.johnnypayphone.net/cargo/

Find large wire baskets is hard. Finding them at reasonable prices is even harder. The one I am using now is 24wx17lx10d&quot;, came from Lowe&#039;s for about $20. Shopping for them now, and equivalent is in the $50 range. It&#039;s okay, but I wish is was a little wider so that I could put three paper sacks across the front, and the wire guage is a little too thin, so I am on the hunt.

One fellow uses these:
https://store.bagsolutions.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=232

I think what I am looking for now is a used small shopping cart so I can take off the basket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie has it right. Weight on the front is fine if it is on the frame and not the hub. Worksman makes a cycle truck that does that:<br />
<a href="http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/lowgravity.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/media/lowgravity.jpg</a></p>
<p>Another way to do things is the way I did it using the Alex Wilson design:<br />
<a href="http://www.johnnypayphone.net/cargo/" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnnypayphone.net/cargo/</a></p>
<p>Find large wire baskets is hard. Finding them at reasonable prices is even harder. The one I am using now is 24wx17lx10d&#8221;, came from Lowe&#8217;s for about $20. Shopping for them now, and equivalent is in the $50 range. It&#8217;s okay, but I wish is was a little wider so that I could put three paper sacks across the front, and the wire guage is a little too thin, so I am on the hunt.</p>
<p>One fellow uses these:<br />
<a href="https://store.bagsolutions.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=232" rel="nofollow">https://store.bagsolutions.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=232</a></p>
<p>I think what I am looking for now is a used small shopping cart so I can take off the basket.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice pic, Eric.  I remember a while back you posted some additional pictures of your utility bike (I think it&#039;s somewhere on this site) and you did a post about utility bikes in general.  I thought to myself it was a great adaptation that you had come up with ......

My &quot;grocery getter&quot; has the Wald double-fold-up baskets in the back, but I have yet to do something on the front.  Your basket up front looks extra-wide -- is it?  Where did you get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice pic, Eric.  I remember a while back you posted some additional pictures of your utility bike (I think it&#8217;s somewhere on this site) and you did a post about utility bikes in general.  I thought to myself it was a great adaptation that you had come up with &#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>My &#8220;grocery getter&#8221; has the Wald double-fold-up baskets in the back, but I have yet to do something on the front.  Your basket up front looks extra-wide &#8212; is it?  Where did you get?</p>
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		<title>By: eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 05:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a basket convert. I have a basket on my worksman that is attatched to the frame, which is very stable. I have a wald on my Dyno, which is beefy but interfers with steering if I load it up too much. I have some basil panniers on my pashley that don&#039;t see as much use. My xtracycle is great for kayaks, couches and other monsters. this post makes me realize I probably have too many bikes.

any cargo hauling solutions for raleigh twenties?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a basket convert. I have a basket on my worksman that is attatched to the frame, which is very stable. I have a wald on my Dyno, which is beefy but interfers with steering if I load it up too much. I have some basil panniers on my pashley that don&#8217;t see as much use. My xtracycle is great for kayaks, couches and other monsters. this post makes me realize I probably have too many bikes.</p>
<p>any cargo hauling solutions for raleigh twenties?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At times, my wife rides on the rear rack, so I think that it will take the weight of your gas bottle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At times, my wife rides on the rear rack, so I think that it will take the weight of your gas bottle.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bungee net works even better for such bulky loads than individual bungees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bungee net works even better for such bulky loads than individual bungees.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But can you carry a 20# gas bottle like I do? Those bottles weigh in the neighborhood of 30# when full. Put it in a bag on your handlebars and it might pull the handlebars in that direction.

I never put grocery bags on the handlebars. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But can you carry a 20# gas bottle like I do? Those bottles weigh in the neighborhood of 30# when full. Put it in a bag on your handlebars and it might pull the handlebars in that direction.</p>
<p>I never put grocery bags on the handlebars. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use both on my Pashley.  65L Basil panniers and a basket on my rear rack.  When I&#039;ve lots of groceries, I&#039;ll also put shopping bags on the handlebars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use both on my Pashley.  65L Basil panniers and a basket on my rear rack.  When I&#8217;ve lots of groceries, I&#8217;ll also put shopping bags on the handlebars.</p>
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		<title>By: fred_dot_u</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred_dot_u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try to stay clear of the airport!</description>
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