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	<title>Comments on: Taking kids by bike: faster, less stressful, and a lot more fun!</title>
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	<description>Encouragement, Education &#38; Advocacy for Bicycling in the Real World</description>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/11/09/taking-kids-by-bike-faster-less-stressful-and-a-lot-more-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-5112</link>
		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I framed that Yehuda Moon cartoon last week!

Family biking blogs showed me that it was possible to be a family bike commuter. I had twins first ( a third a few years later) &amp; it seemed &#039;impossible&#039; to ride on a bike with my boys. One kid-- I could figure out the single bike seat, but two???? It took me six years, a two-mile commute to a new job, &amp; a friend who follows alternative transportation to discover cargo bikes.  I could not be more THRILLED with our two: a Bakfiets &amp; an Xtracycle Radish-- both which have radically changed our lifestyle. I live in a city where I was not comfortable using a trailer (it sits low &amp; behind me) but our Bakfiets has the cargo box in front.

There are a lot of naysayers out there about cycling with kids as one&#039;s major transportation but there are families out their doing it day-in-and-day-out. It&#039;s inspiring.  Every day, my guys strap on their helmets as part of their morning routine. It&#039;s just what we do now &amp; we love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I framed that Yehuda Moon cartoon last week!</p>
<p>Family biking blogs showed me that it was possible to be a family bike commuter. I had twins first ( a third a few years later) &amp; it seemed &#8216;impossible&#8217; to ride on a bike with my boys. One kid&#8211; I could figure out the single bike seat, but two???? It took me six years, a two-mile commute to a new job, &amp; a friend who follows alternative transportation to discover cargo bikes.  I could not be more THRILLED with our two: a Bakfiets &amp; an Xtracycle Radish&#8211; both which have radically changed our lifestyle. I live in a city where I was not comfortable using a trailer (it sits low &amp; behind me) but our Bakfiets has the cargo box in front.</p>
<p>There are a lot of naysayers out there about cycling with kids as one&#8217;s major transportation but there are families out their doing it day-in-and-day-out. It&#8217;s inspiring.  Every day, my guys strap on their helmets as part of their morning routine. It&#8217;s just what we do now &amp; we love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a nice photo of someone transporting their child on a bike.  This is how I carried my children on my bike when they were this age.  See:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/larsdaniel/4103512657/

There was such an intimacy chatting with my four-year-old as we rode along like this.  Memories...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a nice photo of someone transporting their child on a bike.  This is how I carried my children on my bike when they were this age.  See:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/larsdaniel/4103512657/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/larsdaniel/4103512657/</a></p>
<p>There was such an intimacy chatting with my four-year-old as we rode along like this.  Memories&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to mention there are a LOT of people in Central Florida who don&#039;t have the means to own a car, yet they still have children (and why should a family be required to bear the burden of owning a vehicle?). There have also been cases where these families have been trying to cross a street and they&#039;ve been hit and children have died. Is it the parents&#039; fault b/c the driver was distracted or didn&#039;t yield? Not to mention the hundreds (thousands?) of close calls that NEVER get reported because there are no injuries. 

Even this week after Orlando was listed as the worst place for pedestrians, law enforcement got it wrong when they ticketed peds for crossing at &#039;undesignated&#039; crosswalks. About the only place where it&#039;s illegal to cross mid block is in the heart of downtown Orlando. There are precious few places where there are two signalized intersections adjacent to each other.

I almost would like to contact the people ticketed wrongly. They probably have no idea what they did may have been perfectly legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to mention there are a LOT of people in Central Florida who don&#8217;t have the means to own a car, yet they still have children (and why should a family be required to bear the burden of owning a vehicle?). There have also been cases where these families have been trying to cross a street and they&#8217;ve been hit and children have died. Is it the parents&#8217; fault b/c the driver was distracted or didn&#8217;t yield? Not to mention the hundreds (thousands?) of close calls that NEVER get reported because there are no injuries. </p>
<p>Even this week after Orlando was listed as the worst place for pedestrians, law enforcement got it wrong when they ticketed peds for crossing at &#8216;undesignated&#8217; crosswalks. About the only place where it&#8217;s illegal to cross mid block is in the heart of downtown Orlando. There are precious few places where there are two signalized intersections adjacent to each other.</p>
<p>I almost would like to contact the people ticketed wrongly. They probably have no idea what they did may have been perfectly legal.</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. As I was falling asleep last night, I remembered why that name rang a bell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. As I was falling asleep last night, I remembered why that name rang a bell.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeOnBike</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeOnBike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, Rob Anderson is a well-known anti-cyclist in San Francisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, Rob Anderson is a well-known anti-cyclist in San Francisco.</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever seen the human carnage of a car crash where all were occupants of cars?

I&#039;ll take my awareness, skill and understanding of traffic dynamics over your steel cage and false sense of security any day.

Orlando is the worst city in the US for pedestrian safety. Would you accuse people of being bad parents for trying to use a crosswalk with their kids? No, probably not. It&#039;s far safer to be a competent bicyclist in Orlando than to be a pedestrian, but nobody would criticize a family for walking with their kids.

Some of us work to make the roadway environment safer for all people, regardless of mode. Some just throw stones. Clearly, we know which one Rob Anderson is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever seen the human carnage of a car crash where all were occupants of cars?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take my awareness, skill and understanding of traffic dynamics over your steel cage and false sense of security any day.</p>
<p>Orlando is the worst city in the US for pedestrian safety. Would you accuse people of being bad parents for trying to use a crosswalk with their kids? No, probably not. It&#8217;s far safer to be a competent bicyclist in Orlando than to be a pedestrian, but nobody would criticize a family for walking with their kids.</p>
<p>Some of us work to make the roadway environment safer for all people, regardless of mode. Some just throw stones. Clearly, we know which one Rob Anderson is.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo--have two kids they grew up in bike trailers in the 80s and 90s. Grew up on the ST MARKS bike trail too it was our backyard. Now 26 and 20 neither have cars both have high function lives. Boyzilla 20--nicname due to his wildside while young, now does ride a motorcycle using the skills he earned on a bicycle. He has superior car driving skills due to his bicycle years and motorcycle years. No obesity or inactivity associated with either of them and no  attitudes even toward stupid ignorant morons who use their cars for every inch they travel. You get back what you put in to this life and the bike give an awful lot back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo&#8211;have two kids they grew up in bike trailers in the 80s and 90s. Grew up on the ST MARKS bike trail too it was our backyard. Now 26 and 20 neither have cars both have high function lives. Boyzilla 20&#8211;nicname due to his wildside while young, now does ride a motorcycle using the skills he earned on a bicycle. He has superior car driving skills due to his bicycle years and motorcycle years. No obesity or inactivity associated with either of them and no  attitudes even toward stupid ignorant morons who use their cars for every inch they travel. You get back what you put in to this life and the bike give an awful lot back.</p>
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		<title>By: rodney</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

It has been said that the majority of accidents happen within 25 miles of home.  Have you thought about moving, just to be safe?

To operate a any vehicle safely, one must have the proper training and skill set, something a majority of cyclists and motorists on our road and streets do not have. 

When I moved to FL, I was given a home study driver&#039;s manual and was not required to test any further past a vision test.  I simply relinquished my old DL, signed the line, and became another one of the menaces on FL roads.

Do you honestly trust such minimally trained motor vehicle operators with the safety of your children?  

Hello Mr. Pot, Meet Mr. Kettle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>It has been said that the majority of accidents happen within 25 miles of home.  Have you thought about moving, just to be safe?</p>
<p>To operate a any vehicle safely, one must have the proper training and skill set, something a majority of cyclists and motorists on our road and streets do not have. </p>
<p>When I moved to FL, I was given a home study driver&#8217;s manual and was not required to test any further past a vision test.  I simply relinquished my old DL, signed the line, and became another one of the menaces on FL roads.</p>
<p>Do you honestly trust such minimally trained motor vehicle operators with the safety of your children?  </p>
<p>Hello Mr. Pot, Meet Mr. Kettle!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are fanatics and guilty of child endangerment. Someone runs a stoplight and bye bye children!
http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-is-this-legal-2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are fanatics and guilty of child endangerment. Someone runs a stoplight and bye bye children!<br />
<a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-is-this-legal-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-is-this-legal-2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keri wrote:
&quot;The  [Florida] law requires children under 16 to wear a helmet.&quot;

Kevin&#039;s comment:
It is impossible for babies under a certain age to wear a helmet, and highly inappropriate for a child of any age to wear one while on a bicycle.  

Unless that child is a teenager doing racing or stunt jumping.  Brings back memories of when I was a teenager.  And did dumb and dangerous things.  Like join the Army.   An appropriate thing to mention today on Remembrance Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keri wrote:<br />
&#8220;The  [Florida] law requires children under 16 to wear a helmet.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kevin&#8217;s comment:<br />
It is impossible for babies under a certain age to wear a helmet, and highly inappropriate for a child of any age to wear one while on a bicycle.  </p>
<p>Unless that child is a teenager doing racing or stunt jumping.  Brings back memories of when I was a teenager.  And did dumb and dangerous things.  Like join the Army.   An appropriate thing to mention today on Remembrance Day.</p>
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