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		<title>By: Three Cycling Tips That Could Save Your Tailfeathers! &#124; Bike Flock</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-12322</link>
		<dc:creator>Three Cycling Tips That Could Save Your Tailfeathers! &#124; Bike Flock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 22:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dooring is VERY easy for a cyclist to prevent!   See Door Zone Video! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: It’s hard to imagine… : Beezodog&#039;s Place</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-11305</link>
		<dc:creator>It’s hard to imagine… : Beezodog&#039;s Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the information age, any city could do such a heinous, backwards thing as stripe a 3-foot door zone bike [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the story so far&#8230; &#171; learning to ride a bicycle</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-7175</link>
		<dc:creator>the story so far&#8230; &#171; learning to ride a bicycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with cycling/parking lanes like the one between cumberland campus and the station &#8211; see this video. for me i think it comes down to my fitness and energy levels on any given ride. for the most part [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with cycling/parking lanes like the one between cumberland campus and the station &#8211; see this video. for me i think it comes down to my fitness and energy levels on any given ride. for the most part [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-3999</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preston just put up a new instructional video...

The wind noise is problematic, but it&#039;s a good demonstration with a 2-door car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YixMuZpm88

Watch where you hit the door at 3 feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preston just put up a new instructional video&#8230;</p>
<p>The wind noise is problematic, but it&#8217;s a good demonstration with a 2-door car.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YixMuZpm88" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YixMuZpm88</a></p>
<p>Watch where you hit the door at 3 feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Do The Right Thing &#187; Door Zone - A Real Eye-Opener! &#187; Sweat365 &#187; Fitness Community</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>Do The Right Thing &#187; Door Zone - A Real Eye-Opener! &#187; Sweat365 &#187; Fitness Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] via Carbon Trace - a video that appeared on the Commute Orlando Blog , that shows in clear terms how far from a parked car is safe for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JohnB</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-3679</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you have a bicycling website, you have an opportunity to educate, and potentially save a life, by sharing Preston’s video.&quot;

&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.meetup.com/Portland-Bike-Commuting/messages/boards/thread/7470695/#29770390&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Done&lt;/a&gt;. Great video!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you have a bicycling website, you have an opportunity to educate, and potentially save a life, by sharing Preston’s video.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href='http://www.meetup.com/Portland-Bike-Commuting/messages/boards/thread/7470695/#29770390' rel="nofollow">Done</a>. Great video!</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The text below is copied and pasted from a comment I left on Andy Cline&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/08/door-zone-will-kill-you/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post about the door zone&lt;/a&gt; on Carbon Trace.

I remember a student in one Road I class turning white as we talked about door zone bike lanes. Lisa noticed it and queried her. The idea that the government would tell her to ride in the place we were demonstrating to be hazardous really shook her up. It’s such a betrayal of trust. We’re taught to trust traffic control devices. We’re brought up to trust the systems in place that make the commons function.

So you first have to teach them not to trust that system (give them the knowledge to outsmart it) and then you have to convince them to defy all the (real and perceived) social and legal pressures that are pushing to them to ride in that place.

A lot of cyclists will play russian roulette in the door zone bike lane because being doored isn’t real to them (it’s an abstract possibility), whereas being abused for riding in the lane, or being buzzed for riding on the line is real.

...

&lt;em&gt;If you have a bicycling website, you have an opportunity to educate, and potentially save a life, by sharing Preston&#039;s video.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text below is copied and pasted from a comment I left on Andy Cline&#8217;s <a href="http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/08/door-zone-will-kill-you/" rel="nofollow">post about the door zone</a> on Carbon Trace.</p>
<p>I remember a student in one Road I class turning white as we talked about door zone bike lanes. Lisa noticed it and queried her. The idea that the government would tell her to ride in the place we were demonstrating to be hazardous really shook her up. It’s such a betrayal of trust. We’re taught to trust traffic control devices. We’re brought up to trust the systems in place that make the commons function.</p>
<p>So you first have to teach them not to trust that system (give them the knowledge to outsmart it) and then you have to convince them to defy all the (real and perceived) social and legal pressures that are pushing to them to ride in that place.</p>
<p>A lot of cyclists will play russian roulette in the door zone bike lane because being doored isn’t real to them (it’s an abstract possibility), whereas being abused for riding in the lane, or being buzzed for riding on the line is real.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p><em>If you have a bicycling website, you have an opportunity to educate, and potentially save a life, by sharing Preston&#8217;s video.</em></p>
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		<title>By: John Schubert</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Schubert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Flory,

Thank you for reminding us of the big job we have to combat mistaken ideas.

My family owns four cars.  I defy a bicyclist to see a driver inside any of them (
(All have headrests, and the minivan has tinted glass).  I further defy a bicyclist to keep a proper scan for road hazards and conflicting traffic while trying to look inside a series of parked cars.

As you point out, planning to do a last-minute swerve is not a good strategy for safety.

All of this stems from a &quot;fearful timid deer&quot; approach to cycling.  What they fail to understand is how much they benefit from a total shift to Keri&#039;s &quot;Ride Big.&quot;  Get outside the door zone, claim the space you need to avoid obstacles, and you&#039;re seen and responded to.  It is MUCH easier and lower stress than the fearful deer paradigm.

If you ride in the door zone, you&#039;ll eventually get doored.  If you&#039;re lucky, that means some road rash, maybe a broken collarbone.  If you&#039;re not lucky, it means paralysis, brain damage, extensive facial reconstructive surgery or death.

John Schubert
Limeport.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Flory,</p>
<p>Thank you for reminding us of the big job we have to combat mistaken ideas.</p>
<p>My family owns four cars.  I defy a bicyclist to see a driver inside any of them (<br />
(All have headrests, and the minivan has tinted glass).  I further defy a bicyclist to keep a proper scan for road hazards and conflicting traffic while trying to look inside a series of parked cars.</p>
<p>As you point out, planning to do a last-minute swerve is not a good strategy for safety.</p>
<p>All of this stems from a &#8220;fearful timid deer&#8221; approach to cycling.  What they fail to understand is how much they benefit from a total shift to Keri&#8217;s &#8220;Ride Big.&#8221;  Get outside the door zone, claim the space you need to avoid obstacles, and you&#8217;re seen and responded to.  It is MUCH easier and lower stress than the fearful deer paradigm.</p>
<p>If you ride in the door zone, you&#8217;ll eventually get doored.  If you&#8217;re lucky, that means some road rash, maybe a broken collarbone.  If you&#8217;re not lucky, it means paralysis, brain damage, extensive facial reconstructive surgery or death.</p>
<p>John Schubert<br />
Limeport.org</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/08/13/door-zone-video/comment-page-1/#comment-3669</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexi,

The video is in the public domain (YouTube). But if you want to ask directly, you can contact Preston Tyree through the LAB website, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bikeleague.org/cogs/programs/education/instructor_detail/465&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

I exchanged emails with him yesterday and know he is working on a more polished version. I can&#039;t wait to see it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexi,</p>
<p>The video is in the public domain (YouTube). But if you want to ask directly, you can contact Preston Tyree through the LAB website, <a href="http://www.bikeleague.org/cogs/programs/education/instructor_detail/465" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
<p>I exchanged emails with him yesterday and know he is working on a more polished version. I can&#8217;t wait to see it!</p>
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		<title>By: John Flory</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Flory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many riders claim where I ride that the door zone is safe for them, claiming that they watch for drivers sitting in the vehile who might door them.
Preposterous: 
1. You can get distracted and not see the person in the car
2.  What are you going to do when you do see someone in a car who might door you-- swerve out into the lane (and get hit from behind by the car following who was assuming you would ride next to that door</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many riders claim where I ride that the door zone is safe for them, claiming that they watch for drivers sitting in the vehile who might door them.<br />
Preposterous:<br />
1. You can get distracted and not see the person in the car<br />
2.  What are you going to do when you do see someone in a car who might door you&#8211; swerve out into the lane (and get hit from behind by the car following who was assuming you would ride next to that door</p>
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