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		<title>By: Ed W</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2009/05/16/dallas-texas-a-cyclist-friendly-community/comment-page-1/#comment-5871</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R Wharton offered some excellent advice.  Crash analysis is the best way to avoid and prevent further crashes, so if at all possible, please follow up with him.  But another consideration involves all those cold statistics.  The whole subject of crashes, particularly those involving motor vehicles, is fraught with emotionally charged arguments that overwhelm the rational, statistical ones.  The very best way to determine the utility of those cold stats is to ride with someone who can demonstrate basic lane positioning.  Honestly, it&#039;s a truly emotional experience that can change the way you think about bicycling in traffic.  Please consider taking up his offer of a ride together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R Wharton offered some excellent advice.  Crash analysis is the best way to avoid and prevent further crashes, so if at all possible, please follow up with him.  But another consideration involves all those cold statistics.  The whole subject of crashes, particularly those involving motor vehicles, is fraught with emotionally charged arguments that overwhelm the rational, statistical ones.  The very best way to determine the utility of those cold stats is to ride with someone who can demonstrate basic lane positioning.  Honestly, it&#8217;s a truly emotional experience that can change the way you think about bicycling in traffic.  Please consider taking up his offer of a ride together.</p>
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		<title>By: danc</title>
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		<dc:creator>danc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Curious said &quot;85% of Dallas drivers are texting&quot; 

Where did that number come from?

Where do bicycle accidents happen? At the intersection, turning or crossing movement over &gt; 83% while only ~4-6% happen from behind, overtaking by motor vehicle This is not “that is not downplaying fear from the rear” rather prioritizing hazards, conflicts.

&quot;Fear from the rear&quot; is an irrational public fear and distracted driving associated with more driver electronics (i.e. cell phone/texting, PDA and GPS) may aggravate the situation but it does not legitimatize the fear. Cyclist have more control of their safety than than they believe.

Consider &quot;Fear of Traffic from the Rear.&quot;  This paper key point &quot;getting hit from the rear can be just as easily avoided as getting hit from the front, but the cyclist has to be a little more actively involved than to just be maintaining a good lane position.&quot;    &quot;Being move visible&quot; by assertive lane position sound counter intuitive but I agree it works.  

2001 AAA study of &quot;Role of Driver Distractions in Traffic Crashes&quot; developed the  following crash cause categories and percentages (I&#039;ve excluded cell phone stats):

28.1% Outside person, object,  event 
14.1% Adjusting radio/cassette/CD  
11.8% Other occupant 
3.5% Moving object in vehicle 
1.6% Smoking related  
17.1% Other distraction  
16.7% Unknown distraction  

The problem of &quot;distracted driving&quot; has been around a long time. What about banning radio/cassette/CD? Other occupant? I have no idea what the heck &quot;outside person, object, event&quot; means. 

A 2009 NHTSA Traffic Safety Notes: &quot;Examination of Driver Distraction as Recorded in NHTSA Databases&quot;.  Here is the key part of summary:

&quot;Measuring driver distraction in the field is difficult and potentially imprecise because of self-reporting and timing of data collection. Due to differences in methodology and definitions of distraction, each study or survey conducted may arrive at different results and conclusions with respect to the involvement of driver distraction during a crash.&quot;

Honestly anyone driving a car is distracted, but it is momentary not continually otherwise more cars, trucks or trains or planes would be in the ditch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Curious said &#8220;85% of Dallas drivers are texting&#8221; </p>
<p>Where did that number come from?</p>
<p>Where do bicycle accidents happen? At the intersection, turning or crossing movement over &gt; 83% while only ~4-6% happen from behind, overtaking by motor vehicle This is not “that is not downplaying fear from the rear” rather prioritizing hazards, conflicts.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fear from the rear&#8221; is an irrational public fear and distracted driving associated with more driver electronics (i.e. cell phone/texting, PDA and GPS) may aggravate the situation but it does not legitimatize the fear. Cyclist have more control of their safety than than they believe.</p>
<p>Consider &#8220;Fear of Traffic from the Rear.&#8221;  This paper key point &#8220;getting hit from the rear can be just as easily avoided as getting hit from the front, but the cyclist has to be a little more actively involved than to just be maintaining a good lane position.&#8221;    &#8220;Being move visible&#8221; by assertive lane position sound counter intuitive but I agree it works.  </p>
<p>2001 AAA study of &#8220;Role of Driver Distractions in Traffic Crashes&#8221; developed the  following crash cause categories and percentages (I&#8217;ve excluded cell phone stats):</p>
<p>28.1% Outside person, object,  event<br />
14.1% Adjusting radio/cassette/CD<br />
11.8% Other occupant<br />
3.5% Moving object in vehicle<br />
1.6% Smoking related<br />
17.1% Other distraction<br />
16.7% Unknown distraction  </p>
<p>The problem of &#8220;distracted driving&#8221; has been around a long time. What about banning radio/cassette/CD? Other occupant? I have no idea what the heck &#8220;outside person, object, event&#8221; means. </p>
<p>A 2009 NHTSA Traffic Safety Notes: &#8220;Examination of Driver Distraction as Recorded in NHTSA Databases&#8221;.  Here is the key part of summary:</p>
<p>&#8220;Measuring driver distraction in the field is difficult and potentially imprecise because of self-reporting and timing of data collection. Due to differences in methodology and definitions of distraction, each study or survey conducted may arrive at different results and conclusions with respect to the involvement of driver distraction during a crash.&#8221;</p>
<p>Honestly anyone driving a car is distracted, but it is momentary not continually otherwise more cars, trucks or trains or planes would be in the ditch.</p>
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		<title>By: R Wharton</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Wharton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how many times were you NOT hit? That&#039;s the thing. It&#039;s really a numbers game that is truly in our favor. What&#039;s wrong is that the &#039;they&#039; out in the world, want you to believe that it IS dangerous. Every day, thousands of cyclists in and around Dallas, throw a leg over their bikes, and complete a ride from one point to another, or they ride a circuit somewhere and back..... and nothing happens. It&#039;s the anecdote that bleeds, leads, and reads. I&#039;m sorry you&#039;ve been hit, but I bet that there are ways or routes we could figure out together that would mitigate the chances of encounter, and maximize both your safety and effectiveness as a cyclist in Dallas. Act like a vehicle, make yourself as visible as possible (that means controlling your lane among other things), signal your intentions, and act just like everyone else in traffic, blackberries excluded. You&#039;d be surprised at the goodwill you&#039;d foster, the respect you&#039;d gain in the shared-road community, and again, you&#039;d be surprised at what doesn&#039;t happen. 

The guy in FW that was killed several months ago was 5 to 6&#039; over on the right hand side of the shoulder... He was in a de facto bike lane... The white stripe didn&#039;t help him... The distracted motorist who killed him should be held criminally culpable. 

Let&#039;s go over each one of the three accidents you had, deconstruct them and reconstruct them, and see what went wrong, and what you MIGHT have done to improve your odds. We might both learn something. Again - no need to hide behind a pseudonym. You know who I am, and you know how to reach me. Come on out - let&#039;s go for a ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how many times were you NOT hit? That&#8217;s the thing. It&#8217;s really a numbers game that is truly in our favor. What&#8217;s wrong is that the &#8216;they&#8217; out in the world, want you to believe that it IS dangerous. Every day, thousands of cyclists in and around Dallas, throw a leg over their bikes, and complete a ride from one point to another, or they ride a circuit somewhere and back&#8230;.. and nothing happens. It&#8217;s the anecdote that bleeds, leads, and reads. I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;ve been hit, but I bet that there are ways or routes we could figure out together that would mitigate the chances of encounter, and maximize both your safety and effectiveness as a cyclist in Dallas. Act like a vehicle, make yourself as visible as possible (that means controlling your lane among other things), signal your intentions, and act just like everyone else in traffic, blackberries excluded. You&#8217;d be surprised at the goodwill you&#8217;d foster, the respect you&#8217;d gain in the shared-road community, and again, you&#8217;d be surprised at what doesn&#8217;t happen. </p>
<p>The guy in FW that was killed several months ago was 5 to 6&#8242; over on the right hand side of the shoulder&#8230; He was in a de facto bike lane&#8230; The white stripe didn&#8217;t help him&#8230; The distracted motorist who killed him should be held criminally culpable. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go over each one of the three accidents you had, deconstruct them and reconstruct them, and see what went wrong, and what you MIGHT have done to improve your odds. We might both learn something. Again &#8211; no need to hide behind a pseudonym. You know who I am, and you know how to reach me. Come on out &#8211; let&#8217;s go for a ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 02:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,
I know how passionate you are about your view on this topic so I&#039;m not going to get into it with you here. I will say that I&#039;m a very experienced cyclist and commuter and I&#039;ve been hit three times on the roads of Dallas (while following safe cycling guidelines and riding defensively). I just don&#039;t understand how we are to believe we can occupy our lane when drivers are not focused on driving (and unfortunately who can honestly say that they have never been distracted by their phone while driving?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,<br />
I know how passionate you are about your view on this topic so I&#8217;m not going to get into it with you here. I will say that I&#8217;m a very experienced cyclist and commuter and I&#8217;ve been hit three times on the roads of Dallas (while following safe cycling guidelines and riding defensively). I just don&#8217;t understand how we are to believe we can occupy our lane when drivers are not focused on driving (and unfortunately who can honestly say that they have never been distracted by their phone while driving?).</p>
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		<title>By: R Wharton</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Wharton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious - I&#039;m really sorry that you feel this way about Dallas, though I did raise my eyebrows in skepticism at your claim about 85% of Dallas drivers and texting. 

However, I do want to offer my services as a Dallas cyclo-commuter and recreational cyclist who is trying to help enlighten his own species about myth vs. reality. The cycling culture itself perpetuates the perception that the roads are &#039;unsafe&#039;, and that all motorists want to do is kill, either intentionally or inadvertently. I&#039;d like to perhaps meet with you at the Starbucks on Knox, or another one at a location that is convenient to you, and go for a ride together, after a discussion about what does and doesn&#039;t constitute fear, safety, and antagonism, as well as a refresher on road rules. 

Dallas really IS a great place to ride a bike. You just have to know HOW to properly ride your bike. Would you want your taxes to go up for miles of bike lanes that will be unused, unsafe, and un-maintained, yet expected to be there when one is present? 

Let me offer my time and services, and we&#039;ll both look at it from your eyes. I can be reached through www dot cyclingcenterdallas dot com, or you can email me directly at whareagle at gmail.com. While you&#039;re at it, head over to bikedfw dot com and sign up for a Traffic Skills 101 class. You&#039;ll be impressed. I guarantee it. 

Thanks to Keri for hosting and being such a perpetual advocate for real cycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious &#8211; I&#8217;m really sorry that you feel this way about Dallas, though I did raise my eyebrows in skepticism at your claim about 85% of Dallas drivers and texting. </p>
<p>However, I do want to offer my services as a Dallas cyclo-commuter and recreational cyclist who is trying to help enlighten his own species about myth vs. reality. The cycling culture itself perpetuates the perception that the roads are &#8216;unsafe&#8217;, and that all motorists want to do is kill, either intentionally or inadvertently. I&#8217;d like to perhaps meet with you at the Starbucks on Knox, or another one at a location that is convenient to you, and go for a ride together, after a discussion about what does and doesn&#8217;t constitute fear, safety, and antagonism, as well as a refresher on road rules. </p>
<p>Dallas really IS a great place to ride a bike. You just have to know HOW to properly ride your bike. Would you want your taxes to go up for miles of bike lanes that will be unused, unsafe, and un-maintained, yet expected to be there when one is present? </p>
<p>Let me offer my time and services, and we&#8217;ll both look at it from your eyes. I can be reached through www dot cyclingcenterdallas dot com, or you can email me directly at whareagle at gmail.com. While you&#8217;re at it, head over to bikedfw dot com and sign up for a Traffic Skills 101 class. You&#8217;ll be impressed. I guarantee it. </p>
<p>Thanks to Keri for hosting and being such a perpetual advocate for real cycling.</p>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lived and ridden in Dallas for 36 years and I have to admit I&#039;m a bit shocked by the misrepresentation of our city in this article...how can one safely occupy their lane when 85% of Dallas drivers are texting as they drive...it&#039;s not that they would intentionally run you down...it&#039;s just that everyone here is more focused on their phone...maybe we just need to accept that &quot;occupying ones lane was killed by the cell phone&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived and ridden in Dallas for 36 years and I have to admit I&#8217;m a bit shocked by the misrepresentation of our city in this article&#8230;how can one safely occupy their lane when 85% of Dallas drivers are texting as they drive&#8230;it&#8217;s not that they would intentionally run you down&#8230;it&#8217;s just that everyone here is more focused on their phone&#8230;maybe we just need to accept that &#8220;occupying ones lane was killed by the cell phone&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pmsummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmsummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric.

I know you didn&#039;t really mean to call out Keri on your post. What you experience and what she experienced are directly related to two things, one primary and the second ancillary.

PRIMARY: Like most beneficiaries of &quot;safety education&quot;, I&#039;ll bet you ride a bike &quot;as far right as possible&quot; in the roadway. That&#039;s not what the law requires, and it isn&#039;t safe. To be able to experience the freedom and hospitality of &quot;bicycle driving&quot; like ms. Caffrey does, I&#039;d recommend you take advantage of this opportunity to &quot;re-learn&quot; basic bicycle traffic skills. It&#039;s easy, it&#039;s simple, and I&#039;m even going to show you how to get a discount. Just follow this URL: 
http://cycledallas.blogspot.com/2010/01/learn-how-to-ride-your-bike.html

ANCILLARY: Sadly, your city of Richardson has begun installing some very poorly thought-out bike lanes that ignore every accepted design standard. Even worse (and this is well documented in other US cities... including Portland, Oregon and Austin, Texas), the introduction of these segregated facilities communicates to the hooligans in your neighborhood that you have no right to be on the street. 

I encourage you to take the Traffic 101 course, learn its principals, and then enjoy the streets. True, there are always going to be a few assholes. The number of serious incidents and injuries on trails like the White Rock Creek and Katy Trail attest to the fact that assholes jog and ride bikes, too (and cause serious harm).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric.</p>
<p>I know you didn&#8217;t really mean to call out Keri on your post. What you experience and what she experienced are directly related to two things, one primary and the second ancillary.</p>
<p>PRIMARY: Like most beneficiaries of &#8220;safety education&#8221;, I&#8217;ll bet you ride a bike &#8220;as far right as possible&#8221; in the roadway. That&#8217;s not what the law requires, and it isn&#8217;t safe. To be able to experience the freedom and hospitality of &#8220;bicycle driving&#8221; like ms. Caffrey does, I&#8217;d recommend you take advantage of this opportunity to &#8220;re-learn&#8221; basic bicycle traffic skills. It&#8217;s easy, it&#8217;s simple, and I&#8217;m even going to show you how to get a discount. Just follow this URL:<br />
<a href="http://cycledallas.blogspot.com/2010/01/learn-how-to-ride-your-bike.html" rel="nofollow">http://cycledallas.blogspot.com/2010/01/learn-how-to-ride-your-bike.html</a></p>
<p>ANCILLARY: Sadly, your city of Richardson has begun installing some very poorly thought-out bike lanes that ignore every accepted design standard. Even worse (and this is well documented in other US cities&#8230; including Portland, Oregon and Austin, Texas), the introduction of these segregated facilities communicates to the hooligans in your neighborhood that you have no right to be on the street. </p>
<p>I encourage you to take the Traffic 101 course, learn its principals, and then enjoy the streets. True, there are always going to be a few assholes. The number of serious incidents and injuries on trails like the White Rock Creek and Katy Trail attest to the fact that assholes jog and ride bikes, too (and cause serious harm).</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 05:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long-time Dallasite who grew up here and has only recently started to get more into biking, I found that upbeat article rather amusing.  I still think it&#039;s pretty unfriendly.  I&#039;ve cycled to work a few times, Richardson to Walnut Hill and Central.  There&#039;s a good path most of the way, but when there&#039;s not there is no way I want to be on the street with Dallas car drivers, some of whom (3 kids) drove by me a couple of blocks from my house on a very sedate street with no traffic and very angrily yelled at me to &quot;get on the sidewalk, m_____&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long-time Dallasite who grew up here and has only recently started to get more into biking, I found that upbeat article rather amusing.  I still think it&#8217;s pretty unfriendly.  I&#8217;ve cycled to work a few times, Richardson to Walnut Hill and Central.  There&#8217;s a good path most of the way, but when there&#8217;s not there is no way I want to be on the street with Dallas car drivers, some of whom (3 kids) drove by me a couple of blocks from my house on a very sedate street with no traffic and very angrily yelled at me to &#8220;get on the sidewalk, m_____&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: P.M. Summer</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.M. Summer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interchange between Pedro and Keri is illustrative. Cyclists who ride in the gutter have horrible experiences as they constantly assume the subservient position to other vehicles, and never even begin to understand the dynamic, instead finding meaning in victim status.

Cyclists like Keri make the decision to control their lane in traffic, and to exchange the life of a traffic victim for that of being a full partner.

There are none so blind as those who will not see. Nor so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interchange between Pedro and Keri is illustrative. Cyclists who ride in the gutter have horrible experiences as they constantly assume the subservient position to other vehicles, and never even begin to understand the dynamic, instead finding meaning in victim status.</p>
<p>Cyclists like Keri make the decision to control their lane in traffic, and to exchange the life of a traffic victim for that of being a full partner.</p>
<p>There are none so blind as those who will not see. Nor so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: BobBentBike</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobBentBike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedro, Why do you think your ignorati will respect a stripe if they don&#039;t respect little blue signs?  If you have a different experience than what&#039;s been demonstrated in video, maybe you can change your experience by modifying your own behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedro, Why do you think your ignorati will respect a stripe if they don&#8217;t respect little blue signs?  If you have a different experience than what&#8217;s been demonstrated in video, maybe you can change your experience by modifying your own behavior.</p>
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