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	<title>Comments on: Convictions</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Gutierrez</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/11/25/convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chipseal wrote: &quot;We ought to be able to impound and crush/sell any vehicle used by someone who is driving on a suspended license.&quot;
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It sounds nice, but such a policy of impounding &quot;any&quot; vehicle used by someone with a suspended license is unreasonable (search and) seizure and violates the US Constitution.  We didn&#039;t like it when the British did such things to our colonial ancestors, and it won&#039;t fly today.

It is not uncommon those with suspended licenses to &quot;borrow&quot; friends&#039; and relatives&#039; vehicles without permission, or under false pretenses, so the burden of proof has to be on those claiming that the owner of the car had knowingly loaned it to someone with a suspended license.

It would be legal to impound vehicles owned by drivers with suspended licenses, or vehicles owned by those that were shown to have knowingly loaned a car to someone with suspended license.  As much as we don&#039;t like those that aide and abet crime, we also have to protect the rights of those who didn&#039;t know they were being exploited.
 
- Dan -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chipseal wrote: &#8220;We ought to be able to impound and crush/sell any vehicle used by someone who is driving on a suspended license.&#8221;<br />
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It sounds nice, but such a policy of impounding &#8220;any&#8221; vehicle used by someone with a suspended license is unreasonable (search and) seizure and violates the US Constitution.  We didn&#8217;t like it when the British did such things to our colonial ancestors, and it won&#8217;t fly today.</p>
<p>It is not uncommon those with suspended licenses to &#8220;borrow&#8221; friends&#8217; and relatives&#8217; vehicles without permission, or under false pretenses, so the burden of proof has to be on those claiming that the owner of the car had knowingly loaned it to someone with a suspended license.</p>
<p>It would be legal to impound vehicles owned by drivers with suspended licenses, or vehicles owned by those that were shown to have knowingly loaned a car to someone with suspended license.  As much as we don&#8217;t like those that aide and abet crime, we also have to protect the rights of those who didn&#8217;t know they were being exploited.</p>
<p>- Dan -</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Thanksgiving, here are your dead and injured cyclists &#171; Witch on a Bicycle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Thanksgiving, here are your dead and injured cyclists &#171; Witch on a Bicycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] list of driver we cyclists won&#8217;t have to deal with in FL. Convictions I don&#8217;t know why it takes so long to get dangerous people off the roads, one of these people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] list of driver we cyclists won&#8217;t have to deal with in FL. Convictions I don&#8217;t know why it takes so long to get dangerous people off the roads, one of these people [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/11/25/convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought the same thing, too! If the car was confiscated (like they do with vehicles used to transport drugs), people might think twice about letting a deadbeat relative borrow the car.

The problem is that while we claim driving is a privilege, we treat it like an entitlement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought the same thing, too! If the car was confiscated (like they do with vehicles used to transport drugs), people might think twice about letting a deadbeat relative borrow the car.</p>
<p>The problem is that while we claim driving is a privilege, we treat it like an entitlement.</p>
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		<title>By: ChipSeal</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/11/25/convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>ChipSeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We ought to be able to impound and crush/sell any vehicle used by someone who is driving on a suspended license. Take away the means of their menace. Prevent rational people from loaning them the use of their vehicle. 
How many times was Ms. Sara Bragg &quot;caught&quot; driving on a suspended license before she killed someone? Obviously the tickets and fines were not a deterrent for her!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We ought to be able to impound and crush/sell any vehicle used by someone who is driving on a suspended license. Take away the means of their menace. Prevent rational people from loaning them the use of their vehicle.<br />
How many times was Ms. Sara Bragg &#8220;caught&#8221; driving on a suspended license before she killed someone? Obviously the tickets and fines were not a deterrent for her!</p>
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