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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/10/29/little-big-things/comment-page-1/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;this would be yet another thing a local cycling advocacy org could tackle (hint, hint).&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s kinda the unformed &quot;we&quot; I had in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>this would be yet another thing a local cycling advocacy org could tackle (hint, hint).</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s kinda the unformed &#8220;we&#8221; I had in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mighk</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/10/29/little-big-things/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Mighk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can we address land-use policy to require compatible easements in new development?&quot;

Waddya mean &quot;we&quot; Kimosabi?  (Sorry, just had to use that...)

Orlando has had such requirements in their codes for quite a few years.  The counties have been reluctant.

Soapbox interlude:  this would be yet another thing a local cycling advocacy org could tackle (hint, hint).

Canal banks get some local governments nervous, though when the political support is there...</description>
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<p>Waddya mean &#8220;we&#8221; Kimosabi?  (Sorry, just had to use that&#8230;)</p>
<p>Orlando has had such requirements in their codes for quite a few years.  The counties have been reluctant.</p>
<p>Soapbox interlude:  this would be yet another thing a local cycling advocacy org could tackle (hint, hint).</p>
<p>Canal banks get some local governments nervous, though when the political support is there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/10/29/little-big-things/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you get the whole &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NIMBY&lt;/a&gt; resistance, too... especially with the gated communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you get the whole <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY" rel="nofollow">NIMBY</a> resistance, too&#8230; especially with the gated communities.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is how we facilitate novice cyclists and help them learn road cycling skills. We give them low-volume road options. As they become more comfortable, they’ll move to bigger roads to expand their access.  ...&quot;

100% on point.  But as John Allen&#039;s article points out, how do we go back and add access to the already-existing neighborhoods?

First, who identifies where the connectors need to be?

Second, who tries to ask the owners for right-of-way or an easment?

Third, do the owners get any benefit by doing this?  (ie property tax reduction, or something like that) ....  

Of course, there&#039;s always the option/threat of &quot;emminent domain&quot; laws -- taking land for the good of the &quot;public&quot;.   Yuk!  I did not like that particular Supreme Court decision and would hate to see that option enacted in any situation .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is how we facilitate novice cyclists and help them learn road cycling skills. We give them low-volume road options. As they become more comfortable, they’ll move to bigger roads to expand their access.  &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>100% on point.  But as John Allen&#8217;s article points out, how do we go back and add access to the already-existing neighborhoods?</p>
<p>First, who identifies where the connectors need to be?</p>
<p>Second, who tries to ask the owners for right-of-way or an easment?</p>
<p>Third, do the owners get any benefit by doing this?  (ie property tax reduction, or something like that) &#8230;.  </p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s always the option/threat of &#8220;emminent domain&#8221; laws &#8212; taking land for the good of the &#8220;public&#8221;.   Yuk!  I did not like that particular Supreme Court decision and would hate to see that option enacted in any situation &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/10/29/little-big-things/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mighk,
Can we address land-use policy to require compatible easements in new development?

Another annoying thing about much of the outlying development is gated communities. There have been many times over the years when I have planned out a route with a road atlas, only to discover a locked gate forcing me to use a busy arterial road where I hadn&#039;t planned to. Google satellite is such a blessing for being able to figure these things out ahead of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mighk,<br />
Can we address land-use policy to require compatible easements in new development?</p>
<p>Another annoying thing about much of the outlying development is gated communities. There have been many times over the years when I have planned out a route with a road atlas, only to discover a locked gate forcing me to use a busy arterial road where I hadn&#8217;t planned to. Google satellite is such a blessing for being able to figure these things out ahead of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/10/29/little-big-things/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES... 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=28.473355,-81.297645&amp;spn=0.001981,0.001861&amp;t=k&amp;z=19&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Like this one!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&#038;ll=28.473355,-81.297645&#038;spn=0.001981,0.001861&#038;t=k&#038;z=19" rel="nofollow">Like this one!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mighk,
I think Orange County owns a lot of drainage ditches that might be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mighk,<br />
I think Orange County owns a lot of drainage ditches that might be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Mighk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mighk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that most of those disconnected streets have no rights-of-way or easements connecting them that can be improved with paved paths; it&#039;s wall-to-wall houses.  (Davis, CA actually condemned, purchased and tore down a house to make a critical cycling connection.)
As I&#039;ve worked up the metro bike network I&#039;ve found a number of potential connections, but in most cases there is no right-of-way.  Local governments are generally more interested in building longer recreational paths than making a better-connected nonmotorized transportation network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that most of those disconnected streets have no rights-of-way or easements connecting them that can be improved with paved paths; it&#8217;s wall-to-wall houses.  (Davis, CA actually condemned, purchased and tore down a house to make a critical cycling connection.)<br />
As I&#8217;ve worked up the metro bike network I&#8217;ve found a number of potential connections, but in most cases there is no right-of-way.  Local governments are generally more interested in building longer recreational paths than making a better-connected nonmotorized transportation network.</p>
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